Have the power to heal with food. In today’s episode, Susi Vine and Cheryl discuss:

• The trait of making the change to support others we love when we can’t seem to do it for ourselves,
• A history of antidepressants that never really resolved her chronic depression,
• The exciting awareness that we are so much more than our gene pool,
• The importance of recognizing just how much power we have to transform our health,
• The real reason why allowing yourself a “cheat meal” undermines your better eating habits,
• The effect of the slow burn of inflammation, and
• How our environment also impacts our health and resilience.

Follow Cheryl on her blog at http://ThinStrongHealthy.com

Find her book, Eat Your Blues Away, on Amazon at https://CherylLoves.me/EatYourBluesAway and stay on the lookout for her upcoming book, The Major Method! 

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The Power To Heal – With Food

Cheryl A. Major, CNWC, has been on a healthy eating journey for many years, but it took a health scare affecting her husband to transform her diet and resolve a decades-long battle with depression. The change in how she felt both physically and emotionally inspired her to share her wisdom with the people in her life, and then create a coaching practice to help guide people in their own transformation. Cheryl says, “I didn’t just learn this… I live it!” We discuss her own journey and the power that each of us has to take control of our own health through a diet and lifestyle that supports our resilient health.

Joining me is the lovely Cheryl A Major CNWC. We’re going to get into all of that and learn about how Cheryl has been able to transform her life through somewhat simple lifestyle changes. We’re going to learn about Cheryl. I’m so grateful to have you here with us. Thanks for joining me.  

It’s my pleasure. I’m excited to be here and to share my experiences. I hope I’ll help some other people. That’s my goal.  

Cheryl has been on a healthy eating journey for many years now, starting at age 28. She adjusted and changed her diet and has since then been influencing the eating habits of those around her because of the difference and the impact it makes on her health even at that point. Several years ago, this journey led her to remove all processed foods, sugar, gluten, and preservatives from her diet. That is the tricky part. The change in how she felt both physically and emotionally has been an inspiration for her blog. You can follow her at ThinStrongHealthy.com. She disappeared after a several decade’s long battle with chronic depression and has an unexpected result of these changes discovering a change in weight. She lost 20 pounds without dieting. Cheryl’s mission is to share her discoveries to benefit those around her, whether it’s in west suburban Boston where she lives or nationwide internet community. Cheryl, thank you so much again. I’m so happy to have you here. It sounds like you found quite a journey.  

I have been on quite a journey. I began being depressed when I was twelve years old. I started crying all the time and my parents couldn’t figure out what was wrong with me. They weren’t equipped to deal with it. I didn’t know what was going on in chronic depression. It got better and worse, and it was often event-driven by deaths in the family and that kind of thing. I was depressed for over 40 years. About several years ago, my husband was having some serious side effects. We discovered that they were from the Lipitor he was taking and he was a borderline type 2 diabetic. He had neuropathy, he had muscle weakness, he had brain fog, he was getting cataracts and he was having memory issues. We were worried.  

The only thing he was on was Lipitor for his family history of cholesterol. We did the Google and we checked out the side effects and it turned out that he was the poster child for problems with Lipitor. It became clear that what we had to do was back him off diabetes. He was so close to being diabetic. He had to finger stick twice a day and check his glucose. We had to back him off that. We also had to back him off needing the Lipitor. That’s what prompted us to get rid of everything with sugar, gluten, dairy, and processed foods. We rip the band–aid off, which is hard for people to do, but we were scared.  

That’s what we did. Not only did we pull him back, but a few months later, we started digging into this for him. It was in October and then early summer both my parents had passed away. I had to sell the family home and it wasn’t something I wanted to do. It wasn’t a happy occasion. We kept waiting for me to be a blob in the corner in the fetal position, sucking my thumb, and totally unable to do anything. I wasn’t. What we realized was, I was no longer depressed. I was sad because it was hard, but I was appropriately sad. If you’ve ever been depressed, you know that there’s a difference between being depressed and being appropriately sad. It was several years ago and I haven’t been depressed since. 

I love to know stories of transformation like that. It’s so sad at the same time to know it often comes from this breaking point where you’re faced with a situation, and you recognize you’ve got to make a big pivot to make a change. A lot of times I see it come from that feeling. We’ll do anything to take care of the people that we love. Ourselves, we’ll keep trying to stitch it back together, carry on and muster through. Sometimes it takes that outer perspective or the perspective of what can I do to help my loved one to make a big shift. Whereas for ourselves, it’s a lot harder to stick to it.  

That’s very true. I was also on and off antidepressants a number of times. I kept waiting to feel happy. They tell you, “You won’t notice anything for two weeks.” You crossed the days off on the calendar and it’s like, “Two weeks from now, I’m going to be happy.” They don’t make you happy. What they do is dull the depression so you can function a little bit better, but they don’t make you happy. They give you other stuff too. They give you weight gain. My head felt like pudding and I was on three different ones and those didn’t work. They put me on Zoloft and then my dad died and I crashed. I became depressed on antidepressants. They put me on Paxil which ended up being my antidepressant of choice. I was on and off Paxil probably 3 or 4 times. I kept trying to get off because I didn’t want to take drugs. I wanted to do it naturally. I didn’t feel like myself, I felt this dulled-down person. It didn’t make me gain weight. I was lucky in that respect, but I just didn’t feel myself. I didn’t feel sharp.  

I would imagine those feelings tend to compound your outlook and your perception of the situation too. You would be frustrated and having that feeling of disassociation.  

It’s hard for someone else to live with someone who’s depressed all the time. It’s difficult. Being depressed is exhausting, especially when you’re trying to fool the world and you’re trying to work. I’ve been a full-time residential realtor for over 30 years. I was afraid to let people know that I struggled with depression, that they wouldn’t hire me. I had to keep it hidden. When I finally came out as a depressed person, there were a lot of people who were surprised. Although it took a lot of energy, willpower, time and effort, I was pretty darn good at hiding my depression. Inside you’re crumbling and you’re crying. You feel awful but you’re able to have this facade that fools the world and gets you through. It takes a lot of energy. Now I put my energy into other things trying to help other people.  

I imagine it feels tremendous to have that reserve of energy that you’re not always putting into presenting this front, just to keep up with other people’s expectations. I believe we may recognize in people that are very close to us that they may be depressed, or the depression might be on an upswing. It might be impacting them more strongly. It’s like chronic pain and largely an invisible disease. You can’t always be reminding people, “It’s hard for me to muster this energy. I’m feeling depressed now. I’m having a hard time. I’m struggling.” You don’t want to always be putting that out there. Professionally, we’re pressured to have this image of ready for anything, always ready for showtime, especially in a very demanding career like real estate. That must have taken a lot out of you.  

It took a lot of energy that I would have liked to have put elsewhere, but it lets you know what you can do. I am a person who has a lot of energy. I was in that respect, but there are still some days when you don’t want to get out of bed. All you want to do is go to sleep, forget how depressed you are and how awful you feel. Food plays into it because food like sugar, my go-to was muffins. I love muffins, pastries, donuts, and things like that. Telling the truth here, with everything that’s going on, I had a donut in my cart. It was like, “I’m going to have it. I haven’t had a donut for so long.” I put it in my basket at the beginning of my shopping tour, and by the end of my shopping tour I said, “I’m going to put it back.” It was all nicely package.  

Not that it’s not a temptation, but you do get high from eating sugar or refined carbohydrates that turn into sugar. It triggers the dopamine response. It’s like a drug that gives you this feel-good release of dopamine, but it doesn’t last very long. You feel worse than you probably did before. You’re on this vicious cycle. I had to change a lot of things. I didn’t know what I had changed, to be honest with you. I’ve had so many people say, “What did you do? Did you stop eating sugar? Did you get rid of gluten? Did you stop eating processed foods?” I would say to them, “I honestly don’t know.” Now, I know because I’ve figured it out and I’ve done some research. When I wrote my first book, I hadn’t figured out what was going on and what I had done. I was too scared to experiment and see if I could zero in on, is it one thing? Can identify if it’s sugar or if it’s gluten?  

I was a straightened arrow because I was afraid of becoming depressed again. I didn’t want to live like that. This is a new life I have. It’s a completely new life. That’s why I’m so ardent about sharing my message with people because I believe others can do it too. Our food and SAD Standard American Diet are killing us. It keeps us on this slow burn of chronic inflammation. Everything is connected. When you go and you say to your care guy, “I think I’m depressed.” “You need to talk to a social worker.” You go to a social worker, and 40 minutes or 50 minutes later they say, “You’re depressed.” It’s like, “I didn’t need to pay you for 50 minutes to know I’m depressed.” “You need to talk to a psychiatrist because that’s the person with the prescription pad.” It’s this evolution. Along that path, nobody ever said to me, “What are you eating?” That’s what I say to people, regardless of what you’re complaint or your ailment is, “What are you eating?” You are what you eat. It’s a truism.  

It’s so fundamental and deceptively simple. In a lot of aspects, it’s easy to say something as simple. That never means that it’s easy, but it’s so unfortunate that this education isn’t forthcoming. It’s not in schools, it’s hardly in our physician’s schools. I’ve never been asked by a doctor when I’ve had a complaint, “What are you eating?” It’s such a fundamental question. From your own experience, you’ve been moved. This is a heart-driven mission. You feel like you’ve had this experience yourself, and you know so many people who need to have this experience too. We need more people bringing out this message because it’s not on the mainstream airwaves. We’re still digging for this information. Being here where I am in Southern California, we tend to start taking for granted that people are aware of the holistic approach to health, but in so much of the country, that is simply not the case. How did you start your research? Tell us about your certification.  

I have a degree in Education from Boston University, but it wasn’t in the health field. When I decided that I wanted to use my teaching skills to get the word out, I felt like I to have some credentials to legitimize what I was talking about and what I knew to be true. I’m a certified nutrition and wellness consultant. It’s a certification that I have to renew with continuing ed credits. They put you through your paces. I went out and I got that because that gave me some legitimacy. Beyond that, it’s the constant reading, questioning, and self-education. You and I are sitting in front of our computer and it’s like having a library at your fingertips. You can get an education right there.  

The book that we started with was a book by Dr. Mark Hyman. At the time back at the end of 2012, we saw a PBS special that he did. His book, The Blood Sugar Solution had come out. We thought that was a good thing for us to look at for my husband because the number one thing that we were afraid of was him becoming a diabetic. We read that and we started to live by that. We purged the house, pantry, kitchen, fridge and freezer. We gave away stuff that was still good. Everything with any kind of sugar. There are 60–plus names of sugar. People don’t understand how sugar is in everything because they can’t identify the names. It’s not all sugar. It’s all kinds of weird names. We threw out everything with sugar and gluten. We went gluten-free. That was tough. We got rid of dairy and everything that we could put in the microwave. We got rid of our microwave too. We pulled out the microwave, put it in a hood, and started cooking more, and started eating a lot more raw.  

Each of us lost 20 pounds and I lost my tendency to be depressed. He lost his move toward his family gene pool. The epigenetics that is his gene pool, pushing him toward type 2 diabetes and heart stuff. Another thing that I want people to understand is they don’t have to be their gene pool. You hear so many people say, “Being overweight runs in my family. Cancer, diabetes and heart disease runs in my family.” The genes may be there, but you have the power over whether you’ve turned them off or not. It depends on what you put in your body, what you wash your clothes with, what you clean your house with.  

Everything is all connected. It’s so huge and people don’t understand how much power they have. They have the power to save themselves, to create a new life for themselves. If they only have the information and I know some people have to do what I call small steps for big changes. They can’t rip the band–aid off as we did, but they can make little changes that add up and you start to feel better. It’s like, “Maybe if I push that stuff off my plate and eat the good stuff, eventually, I’ll get to where a salad is a dinner.” There’s so much that people can do and they can save themselves. They do not have to be their family’s gene pool. It’s a huge message to get out then.  

We’re in an exciting time now where epigenetics are giving us hope. At the same time, we can go and get the 23 and find out what our genes are. We’re learning that we can control. As you say, which switches get turned on and off. We can push the pause button and say, “We’re not going to go down that line of cancer that’s been in my family. I’m going to push pause on that heart disease that has affected my parents, my grandparents and all of that.” We can break the cycle of prescription drugs as we slowly get stronger, heal ourselves, working with our physician, and recognize we don’t need these interventions anymore. It’s so empowering.  

As you mentioned, our environment has a huge influence on us as well. Environmental stressors are something that I’m personally passionate about. Thank you for bringing that up because it is a holistic approach. We tend to hope there’s a silver bullet. If I give up gluten, that’s all I need to do to be healthy. That’s a big step, but we look for that single source. We’re impacted by so many different influences. It’s hard to untangle. You can rip the band–aid off and go all–in and get everything out of your pantry. For some people, that’s the way to do it because we’ll find a way to cheat. For some of us, those little modifications, those little wins by bringing in this habit, “I’m going to walk around the block every day for a week. That’s great. “Now, I have a little bit more energy. Next week, what else am I going to add to my schedule?” We keep on winning and rewarding ourselves and acknowledging the process.  

People have said to me, “I could never give up bread and pasta.” What I say to them is you don’t have to completely give it up unless you have celiac. You can have non-celiac gluten sensitivity. That means that you can have a reaction to gluten, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that you have celiac disease. I have a friend whose boyfriend gets migraines from eating gluten. As soon as he stops, no migraines. He goes out and has a pizza, migraine. That’s pretty motivational if you’ve ever had a migraine. Sometimes my deal with myself when the donut was in my cart, and then it wasn’t in my cart, I would treat myself to a very wholesome loaf of sourdough bread. I probably won’t eat the whole thing. Most of it will go in the freezer. 

You can have something. I don’t even look at it as cheating. I look at it as I get what I need to do to be healthy. It doesn’t mean I’m a saint. It means that I love a good size of bread. Sometimes I can have it because the rest of the time, I’m on the wagon and I’m doing what I need to be doing. I don’t even call it a cheat meal. Some people say, “I have to have a cheat meal.” You don’t have to call it a cheat meal because it’s not necessarily something bad. It’s something that might not be in your best interest. It’s certainly not in your best interest to do all the time, but you don’t have to look at it as this restrictive path that you have to be on because that’s the problem.  

One of the big problems with dieting is that you’re restricting. Your saying, “I’m not going to do this. I’m not going to have that,” and it’s the thing that you’re craving. There’s then this little thing that happens. It’s like this moment where you say, “That’s it, I got to have it.” You’re more apt to binge on what you’ve been trying to restrict because it’s what you’ve been craving. This whole psychology of how to work with your head. You can get to a point where you can feel better and then you can be okay with having something that might not be in your interest, but you’re making an informed decision. Informed health is where we need to head.  

You said no doctor had ever asked you what you eat. One doctor did ask me. He was a holistic chiropractor here in Massachusetts. I remember I went to see him on the first visit and he had no bedside manner. He walked in and didn’t even look at me. He didn’t introduce himself. He’s looking down at the clipboard. He just said, “What are you eating?” I said, “Excuse me.” “What are you eating?” I was like an idiot. He shocked me so badly. I didn’t remember what I ate that day. That’s the only time it’s ever happened. I wish more doctors would look at the food. There’s so much incentive with the pharmaceutical companies, just like in our body, everything is connected. Unfortunately, with insurance, big food, medical schools, the medical community, prescription drugs, it’s all connected and you have to break the cycle. If you can break the cycle and free yourself, you’re in good shape. It’s simple and it’s hard at the same time, which you alluded to.  

Mindset is such a fundamental part of it. There’s a certain victory in breaking out of the cycle and choosing to chart our own course. I also believe so strongly in what you’re saying about the willpower of, “I have to give up all gluten. I can’t have any bread. I can’t do it. I won’t do it. I’m going to say no,” that willpower flags fast. Some of us peak in willpower first thing in the morning. For some of us, it’s just not our jam. If you can shift that to instead of being, “I will resist this, I can’t have it,” to getting back in touch with your why. Your why was, “We’re going to transform my husband’s health and get him off this medication that’s going to give him more side effects than we can handle.”  

Some people’s why might be that they’ve been having fertility struggles and cleaning up. Some people’s why might be, “I want to be here and active throughout my children’s and then my grandchildren’s lives.” Whatever why you can come back to and hold onto is going to be a lot stronger than, “I will not get that loaf of bread because I shouldn’t do it.” You see tons of people breaking the rules that they’ve put on themselves. Willpower isn’t up to that. When we can tap into something deeper, that’s a powerful tool. We can pull it out when we needed it.  

It’s reinforcing when you make empowering enough shift that you want to hang on to, that’ll keep you on it too. That’s what happened to me. There have been times when I have eaten more wildly and I can start to notice that, “Why am I having those thoughts or why am I starting to feel that way?” I look at what I’m eating and I’ll say, “I had some sugar or I had bread a couple of times,” or something like that. I can always trace it back to choices, and then I have to make choices. It’s simple and it’s hard. They manufacture this food to be addictive in the labs and they test a lot of it on children. They will pull kids. They’ll take a 5 or 7-year-old and they’ll give little cups of pudding. Every little cup has more sugar, until the child says, “It’s too sweet.” What they’ve discovered is when it gets to be too sweet, if they add salt to it, you can tolerate more sugar. It’s that diabolical and we pay the price.  

We see these issues affecting children.  

We’re seeing diabetes and obesity in infants now. If you follow any pediatric endocrinologists, they’re seeing very young clients. Some of them are infants and toddlers. It’s terrible. How can their parents save them when their parents can’t save themselves?   

To touch back briefly on the impact of our environment, some of these chemicals that are in our skincare products and our cleaning products change the way our bodies hold onto fat from that early age, even prenatal. We need to keep our eyes open and be cleaning up our act in all areas. It’s such an important thing to choose where you want to begin, but understand it’s a journey. It’s not one victory and then, “This is all I need to do.”  

It’s your life journey. It’s about saving your life, transforming your life, getting a new life, making your life longer and better, pushing yours declined to the very last days of your life, rather than, you get your AARP invitation. It’s the bobsled to old age. It doesn’t have to be that way. I don’t like to use the word desperate, but I’m so ardent and almost desperate to get the word out to people because they’re not getting it from the traditional medical community. Unless they’re seeing a functional doctor or holistic doctor, they’re just not. I’m certainly not a doctor. I would never tell people not to take their drugs or not to do anything that their doctor recommends, but I do advocate questioning and learning. You never stop learning and questioning because it’s to your benefit in so many ways.  

Speaking of learning, I’d love to hear more about your book. You have a book already out called Eat Your Blues Away, and there’s one coming up soon. Let us know a little bit about those.  

I’d love to talk about those. Eat Your Blues Away, I chronicled what happened to me with my husband having the issues, the accidental recovery, and there’s some education about it in there. I published that at the end of 2018, and I had so many people ask me what I had done. I hadn’t quite connected the dots. I didn’t know. About the same time as my book came out, I started to do some research on inflammation. I learned that it’s all connected. If you’re on a low steady chronic inflammation burn, it’s going to burn you. There are two kinds of inflammation. There’s acute, which is you sprain your ankle and it swells, you get an infection, your white blood cells go, “We got to fight to fight.” It’s supposed to tamp down and go away when the crisis is over.  

What happens with the foods that we’re eating is that we get low-grade chronic inflammation and we are on a slow burn. That slow burn does a lot of things. It amps your overall inflammation. It can give you a leaky gut. It can cause depression. You get a headache. You don’t get a brain ache, but your gut which is your second brain telegraphs up to your brain, “Things are messed up down here.” Your brain goes, “We’re going to manifest this as depression.” Inflammation can manifest as depression. What I had done was I had started eating a low inflammatory diet. It was not just the sugar, the gluten, or any other one thing, it was the entire change. It was the entire new diet that I was eating. I had reduced the inflammation in my body and my brain.  

I had so many people ask me what I did that I started writing what I’m calling The Major Method. I’m not sure what the subtitle would be. It would probably be something like Eat Like Your Life Depends On It Because It Does or something like that. The Major Method is going to be a deeper dive into how I did what I did, and how people can take the ball and run with it themselves. A little more education about what’s going on. What’s being done to us that we’re unaware of because knowledge is power. Thank you for giving me an opportunity to put that out there. I’m hoping for a late fall release on The Major Method.  

What you’re saying is so important. In addition to the influences of food, I’ll bring up my old diatribe, environmental influence, and also simply being under stress. When we don’t get sleep, when we’re in high-stress environments, and when work is stressing us out, that contributes to that inflammatory load that we’re carrying. We’ve got to find a way to break the cycle because our body keeps operating at this stressed-out level. It doesn’t get that opportunity to build resilience. We run out of resilience when we’re always operating stressed and inflamed.  

If we’re stressed and inflamed, then we get sick with something serious. Our body’s like, “I can’t do anymore.” You’re at this point, instead of at this point. If you weren’t amped up on your inflammation, your body would go, “We can handle this.” If you’re here all the time, that’s when you get in trouble with getting sick, no matter what the illness is and that’s critical.  

Only science in hindsight is going to give us clarity on the situation that we’re in. In 2020, I feel that’s a big reason why this pandemic has hit us so hard because so many people are already working at their limit. This is what’s coming along and tipping the scales, even other people who are otherwise healthy and resilient. We couldn’t have enough time in one conversation to get into the foundations or cornerstones of how you work with your clients or what you feel are the most important things to address in nutrition. We’ve scratched the surface, but I believe you’re putting together a membership. How are you working with people to start implementing these changes?  

I do coach and I do have private coaching clients. We start with where they are. They track their food and what they’re eating for a few days. We talk about that and we talk about what they’d like to achieve and we work from there. The membership site, when I launched that, I hope that I’ll be able to cast a wide net, affect and help a bigger group of people. It won’t be as intense as working with people one-on-one, but my goal is to get the word out to as many people as possible. In the meantime, I do have my flagship, ThinStrongHealthy.com, which has been my website since I started this. I think I launched that in 2013 or 2014.  

There’s a ton of content there for people if they want to check that out. The membership site, I want to be a wide net. It sounds like I’m trying to catch people. I’m not trying to catch people. I’m trying to reach people and spread the word, and help them realize the power and the influence they have to affect positivity in their lives. It’s food, it’s a mental state, it’s getting off the couch and move. Use different things to clean your house, to wash your clothes, and use different toothpaste. I was looking at an article about a face cream that had mercury or lead, one of the other. It’s remarkable the things that we put on our skin which is our largest organ. It’s important to protect it.  

When you say casting a wide net, it’s about making it available to people because this information is not headline news. As much as it should be, it‘s just not. It’s a process. Some people can dive into the deep end because they’ve got that big why. They’re trying to turn around their own health or, take care of their family. Some of us need to wade in. The beauty of membership is that you keep getting more. It’s on a drip. It meets you where you are. You can use what serves you. You’ve got all this access to wonderful content, and you can keep on adding the layers, and moving yourself along your path.  

Every month, I’m focusing on a different subject. The first month will be all about immunity because immunity and keeping your immune system strong is so important now. Month two is about keeping salads interesting and eating raw. Not that you have to eat everything raw, but incorporating more raw is a good idea. There will be a month on sugar, a month on how to be successful with your food choices. I’m trying to have a focus every month. There will be webinars and I’ll do a Facebook live, recipes, live videos, and things like that. I’m working on content for people. If I can do it, they can do it.  

We don’t do this because it’s fun. Once you start along the path and you start recognizing the change, and it does as it was for you. Sometimes it sneaks up on you. Sometimes you realize, “I slept better this week than I have since I can even remember.”  

The interesting thing for me, and I talk about this Eat Your Blues Away, I used to get the terrible seasonal affective disorder. When fall came, it was not worth living. I was never suicidal, but I was darn depressed. I can remember this must have been the fall of 2013 because I had been eating this way with this change for about a year. I was driving by a reservoir and it was very still, and there were trees. In New England, we have these beautiful trees that change color. The entire treeline around this is still a glass-like pond. It was red, gold, orange, and spruce tree here and there. It was gorgeous. I can remember looking at it and say, “That’s so gorgeous.” I was driving and I went, “It’s fall and I’m looking at something thinking it’s good.” I knew I was onto something because fall was the test for me. It took me a couple of years to make sure that this wasn’t a fluke before I started to want to put the word out. I was a little slow, but I got more confident the longer it went. It’s been several years. It’s a stunning turnaround and other people can do it. You can change your life. We can change our life with food and what a fun way to do it.  

Thank you so much. I appreciate that story to finish with. That’s a wonderful demonstration. Even the things that used to bring you down, you can see a fresh perspective and have clarity and insight. Sometimes it takes a little bit of hindsight to recognize how far we’ve come. It’s great to have cheerleaders and coaches along the way. That’s why I’m so happy to share you with my group and let them know what you’re up to, and the resources that you have available. I’m excited about checking out your book. We’ll be sharing information as your membership becomes available so folks can dive in at the top and come along for the journey.  

I’m excited. Thank you, Susi.  

Thank you so much, Cheryl. I appreciate your time. I look forward to talking with you again soon. 

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Important Links:

• The Blood Sugar Solution 
• Eat Your Blues Away 
• ThinStrongHealthy.com